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Feature #1934

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New creation event class

Added by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago. Updated about 1 year ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Normal
Category:
CRM
Target version:
Start date:
2023-01-17
Estimated time:

Description

To track the work of photographers for the INDIGO project we will add + Creation event which will be useful for a range of other connections too.

Implementation

E65 Creation > P94 has created > E31 Document
E65 Creation > P14 carried out by > E21 Person/E74 Group

Original question
We have a modelling issue at the INDIGO project, and we kindly ask for advice on this issue.

As you can see from the model image at #1848, there is a first draft for the import of the graffito. Our issue is, that we want to link a person (E21) in a production event (E12) to the photograph (E31) (of a graffito).
But E12 > P108 > E31 is an invalid CIDOC link (wrong range), see link checker: https://demo.openatlas.eu/overview/model.

We already track the photographer in the description of the image (E31), but we would like to also connect the photographer to the graffito.

Do you have any ideas?


Related issues 1 (0 open1 closed)

Related to OpenAtlas - Feature #1848: API: fetch data from ARCHEClosedBernhard Koschiček-Krombholz2022-10-19Actions
Actions #1

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

Actions #2

Updated by Stefan Eichert about 1 year ago

The way I understand it, Production E12 only works for physical entities . A document however, like a picture, would be an Information Object. So the Photograph of a graffito can be an entity of E31 while the graffito itself is a human made object E22. The graffito therefore can be linked directly to a production event via P108 which in turn can be linked to a person via P14.
The photograph on the other hand, can be brought into existence by a Creation event E65: https://www.cidoc-crm.org/Entity/e65-creation/version-7.1.1
This creation event can be linked to an actor via P14.

Actions #3

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 1 year ago

Thank you Stefan for your very quick reply and thoughts. This would be very useful because it would also enable to track authors of documents and similar.
But adding + Creation would also add to our already "strained" event selection as we already have (see: https://demo.openatlas.eu/index/event):

  • + Activity
  • + Acquisition
  • + Event
  • + Move
  • + Production

So question to Stefan and the whole OpenAtlas team: do we want to add another + Creation event type?

Actions #4

Updated by Stefan Eichert about 1 year ago

Just an idea, but could we use only "Creation" or something similar as a label for the button and then automatically set the Range to E12 or E65 depending on what has been created/produced? This would prevent the UI from becoming too "overflowed"

Actions #5

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 1 year ago

  • Tracker changed from Question to Feature
  • Assignee changed from Stefan Eichert to Alexander Watzinger

Context based selection is an interesting idea but difficult to implement, e.g. what to do if someone than selects files and artifacts.
However, I decided to implement this so turning this into a feature and assigning to me because we need for INDIGO and it's general useful.

So there will be a + Creation event for files, not sure if we want this for sources and references too but it will be easy to add this later, if we can't decide before.
Not sure yet if in this version because I first want to finish the tests issue but we will see about that. Still Bernhard might want to change the ARCHE import script accordingly (create photographers but don't add them to the artifact production event).

Actions #6

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 1 year ago

  • Subject changed from How to map creator of a document to Add creation event class
  • Description updated (diff)
Actions #7

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 1 year ago

  • File deleted (ARCHE_import_OpenAtlas.jpg)
Actions #8

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 1 year ago

  • Description updated (diff)

Removed model image which is in related issue as well to remove duplication and avoid confusion in case they get our of sync.

Actions #9

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

  • Description updated (diff)
  • Status changed from Assigned to In Progress
  • Assignee changed from Alexander Watzinger to Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz
Actions #10

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

  • Description updated (diff)
Actions #11

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

  • Assignee changed from Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz to Alexander Watzinger
Actions #13

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

  • Description updated (diff)

Further details will be discussed in Meeting_2023-02-01

Actions #14

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

  • Assignee changed from Alexander Watzinger to Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz
Actions #15

Updated by Bernhard Koschiček-Krombholz about 1 year ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Closed

Creation for files is completed. Since the creation event for Source is more complicated to implement, please open a new issue.

Actions #16

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 1 year ago

  • Subject changed from Add creation event class to New creation event class
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