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Model: Spacetime Volume E92

Added by Vincent Ducatteeuw over 3 years ago. Updated 2 months ago.

Status:
Acknowledged
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Category:
CRM
Target version:
Start date:
2021-05-06
Estimated time:

Description

Context:
In OpenAtlas “Place’ is used as a label for a combination of multiple CRM entities. It is the “E18 Physical Thing” - that represents for example a settlement, a church or a castle - combined with an “E53 Place” entity that represents its space/location. The location is combined with a “E94 Space Primitive” and stored as a PostGIS geometry.

Issue:
Currently multiple geometries and toponyms can be assigned to a “Place”. However, temporally dating these geometries and toponyms is not possible. For example, it is not possible to say that New York was named “Nieuw Amsterdam” during the 17th century and "New York" during the 18th century. (This is possible in the ongoing GeoJSON-T format).

Proposal:
If possible, I would suggest adapting the current OpenAtlas/CIDOC CRM data model to incorporate temporally dating geometries and toponyms through the use of the “E92 Spacetime Volume” and its properties “P160_has_temporal_projection” and “P161_has_spatial_projection” (Schneider et al., 2019)

“E18 Physical Thing” is a subclass of E92 and inherits these properties. If my understanding is correct, a time-span can be assigned to an “E18 Physical Thing” during which a toponym and geometry is valid. Multiple E18s with a timespan can refer to the same place. For example, an E18 entity referring to a city during the 17th century and an E18 entity referring to the same city in the 18th century. These timed observations can be linked to a new E18 that refers to the city from it’s beginning to its end via the property “P10_falls_within”. As attachment, I have provided an UML representation of the CIDOC CRM Classes. If my reasoning is incorrect, I will try to adapt the model as soon as possible.

This addition to the model would be very beneficial for the development of historical gazetteers and the mapping to GeoJSON-T.


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OpenAtlas E92 Spacetime Volume.png (34.5 KB) OpenAtlas E92 Spacetime Volume.png Vincent Ducatteeuw, 2021-06-02 13:10

Related issues 1 (0 open1 closed)

Follows OpenAtlas - Feature #1506: Update CIDOC CRM to 7.1.1ClosedAlexander Watzinger2021-05-05Actions
Actions #1

Updated by Alexander Watzinger over 3 years ago

  • Start date changed from 2021-06-02 to 2021-05-06
  • Follows Feature #1506: Update CIDOC CRM to 7.1.1 added
Actions #2

Updated by Alexander Watzinger over 3 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Assigned
  • Assignee set to Stefan Eichert

Thank you so much for telling us about this interesting idea and creating an issue. We will definitely take a look at it once the new CIDOC CRM RDF version is available.

Actions #3

Updated by Alexander Watzinger about 2 years ago

  • Status changed from Assigned to Acknowledged
  • Assignee deleted (Stefan Eichert)

Just talked with Stefan again about this. We still consider this an excellent idea but it would requires substantial work and funding, so we keep it on the wishlist for now.

Actions #4

Updated by Stefan Eichert about 2 years ago

  • Assignee set to Roland Filzwieser
Actions #5

Updated by Alexander Watzinger 2 months ago

  • Status changed from Acknowledged to Assigned

Colleagues of mine discussed the usage of E94 Space Primitive and I remembered and referenced this issue.
I than noticed that Roland is set as Assignee but this was 2 years ago and I wondered how current this information is. In case Roland doesn't plan to get active in this regard in the near future I would kindly ask him to remove himself as assignee to avoid confusion.
In case he still plans to do something in that direction he is of course more than welcome and can stay as assignee :)

Actions #6

Updated by Roland Filzwieser 2 months ago

  • Assignee changed from Roland Filzwieser to Alexander Watzinger
Actions #7

Updated by Alexander Watzinger 2 months ago

  • Status changed from Assigned to Acknowledged
  • Assignee deleted (Alexander Watzinger)

Thank you Roland for the feedback. Although it might seem like a minor detail I like to keep the state of issues current, e.g. which ones are currently worked on.

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